Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. And as I said earlier, if his ultimate form actually is his base form, then he would be infinitely stronger than everyone else in the series. SSJ3 Goku And SSJ2 Vegeta VS Mystic (Ultimate) Gohan. the budget for the series probally was cut since GT didn't do so good which is why no lighting aura was not visible on them. No one ever goes SSJ2 in GT(or if they did, they never actually show the SSJ2 animations). well i didnt watch the show alot but i think he can go ssj just a guess witch i think is right (sorry if i wrote something wrong im from israel). gohan. User Lists: 0 #1 Badrimoine2019. According to the power lvl chart he had no reason to train beyond Super Saiyan 2 anyways because in his Mystic Form he's at a Super Saiyan 3(or close to it). Anything that happened in it cannot be used because it never happened, Gohan never was shown going SSJ or anything of the sort (until something I'll touch on here in a second) and anything GT did was not a thing. super buu. In Battle of the Gods, he did go SSJ. That why a lot of fans say GT contradicted dbz, because turning ssj would be a waist of time. teen gohan *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* 사진 of *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* for 팬 of Gohan. Ultimate>>>>Super Saiyan The fact is had Gohan gone Ssj3 WHILE Mystic he would have had a massive powerup. If transforming into an SSJ was going to win him the fight, he would of done so. Stop listening to everything they say in the english version because they throw in extra words that they didn't say in the original manga or show. I think Gohan can't turn super saiyan 3 because he's not full saiyan like Goku, Gohans part human so he doesn't get the full abilities a full saiyan has like super saiyan 3 or 4. The Gohan that has no need to turn Super Saiyan in battle is Ultimate Gohan. My Mystic/Ultimate form is about as strong as my ssj 2 form, but stronger because my full potential is unlocked. dedicated to all Gohan fans 39703598. added by son_gohan. GT was discredited by Dragonball onljne. Boo is Overwhelmed! Ultimate Gohan can go super saiyan it just that when he powers up without turning super saiyan his strength surpasses Gotenks so if he did it would be like him going super saiyan 4 almost within power but not appearence. 3. Gohan is shown going super saiyan in Dragonball BoG so he can. Now as far as DBZ cannon goes, that is how it is, that's just fact. dragonball z. anime. (meaning It could be 10000 depending on how strong your body is.). If you ever played Dragon Ball Final Bout for Playstation, his name is "Chou Gohan" which mean "Super Gohan" but Ultimate Gohan is the next best thing so if anyone on here wants their opinion to be believed please use the right names. rev 2020.12.18.38240, Sorry, we no longer support Internet Explorer, The best answers are voted up and rise to the top, Anime & Manga Stack Exchange works best with JavaScript enabled, Start here for a quick overview of the site, Detailed answers to any questions you might have, Discuss the workings and policies of this site, Learn more about Stack Overflow the company, Learn more about hiring developers or posting ads with us, That's exactly why i asked. What people confuse is what the Former Kai told Goku about the Potara earrings. super buu. buu. This was puzzling for some fans during the Buu Saga, but Dragon Ball Super finally offers an explanation when Goku simply asks Gohan why he doesn't go Super Saiyan. Ultimate Gohan’s Super Power! old kai did the ritual to unlock gohan's MYSTIC aka HIDDEN powers it means he was at a point he can go no further. As we all know that we have been wondering, witnessing the infinite power of the Saiyans that we almost share a thought that a Saiyan doesn't stop at anything if he knows to increase his power either it's Ultimate or anything else.. we don't even know if a Saiyan's Ultimate Super Saiyan form is SSJ4 because there could be a lot more. That guy pointed his finger and Kakarot fell down!PrinceVegeta66 00:09, July 28, 2012 (UTC), Acutally, we can't gurantee that Gohan can't go SSJ while his hidden potential was released by Old Kai. video. lets say we put it like this gohan is liggitamitly the second strongest warrior in the universe ((under goku and above vegeta yes above vegeta. He was getting pummeled to pieces. | style="padding: 0px;"|The best achievable or imaginable of its kind: "the ultimate in decorative luxury". The only physical difference I've ever seen between Gohan in base form, and Gohan in mystic form, it's a radiance he displays for a second in the Battle of Gods movie when turning into mystic form. IM RIGHT.... YOU CAN REFER TO SCENES OR MANGA ALL YOU WANT BUT FACT IS DBZ DONT THINK THINGS THROUGH CORRECTLY..... but hey... be glad its not the Final Fantisy series or we'ed all be lost... lol am i right chou kids XD |- *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* added by KEISUKE_URAHARA. dedicated to all gohan fans. And if we consider the fight between Gohan and Super Buu and why didn't Gohan transform into a SSJ? Old Kai drew out all of his power, meaning that he has all of his power in base form. No, it isn't. And GT is part of the Anime so he does go SSJ as Ultimate. Yes and No. Close. dedicated to all Gohan mashabiki 39703607. I would say no, And it's obvious why. Its power eclipses that of his Super Saiyan forms by a significant margin, and in this state, Gohan is often known as Mystic Gohan or Ultimate Gohan. or maybe people don't realize that while something like kaioken is a multiplier, ssj has more of an exponential or log curve. Add ... mystic gohan. im standing on that till my death bed vegeta cheated his way to ssj4 and come to find out its equal only 34% above his ssj2 form. Hell if Buu wouldn't have abosorbed him, he might have tapped into it and used it. It is not a form, it is his full power. *Also named "Mystic Gohan" by fans Although DBZ is my favorite anime, I lack some knowledge of the two, er same, character(s). Ultimate Gohan is the strongest non-fused character in DBZ, and thus the second strongest Z warrior. dedicated to all Gohan 팬 What we know for a fact is that for Gohan to release his true power he has to go super saiyan, but instead of going super saiyan Gohan's true power is revealed, thus turning Gohan's super saiyan form into a simple powerup. Other then that fact aside, I wouldn't go all out and say they had to kill each other. During the world tournament he wasnt angry so he wasn't tapping into all his base power. I dont think he would get weaker if he did transform into SSJ or SSJ2, since the "ultimate" is his base form not a new transformation, nor stronger since his base form has all his strenght (include the hidden power), so transforming into SSJ or SSJ2 would change nothing, Gohan would stay as strong as on his base form. For those of you who consider GT canon it shows how much more powerful Gohan was then, becasue he had mastered the SSJ again with the Ultimate Form being his base form. Gohan Can Go Super Saiyan and Here's The Truth. Goku could go Super Saiyan 3 in the Other World because he could put unlimited energy in his transformation. Have you ever thought after a long period of time he might of forgot the ultimate technique or something and turned ssj instead. Gohan powers up and does not transform but his power increases to much stronger than a SSJ2. The power of his SSJ and SSJ2, along with all the other the power that he never got a chance to unlock, was drawn out by Old Kai for him to use in his base form, as base form obviously doesn't hold the SSJ or SSJ2 power....in a way, SSJ power is like "locked power" within you, and once you "unlock it", you transform into an SSJ...afterwards, it can be "locked" and "unlocked" at will, and it can also grow in power...Gohan had this SSJ power, along with another level, SSJ2...and he also had a ton of power he still hadn't unlocked... Now, when Gohan is in base, his SSJ and SSJ2 power is not present. That's why Gohan was so much stronger as ssj2 fighting cell vs him going ssj2 at the world tournament. Goku did say that Gohan was stronger than he ever was as a super saiyan in the manga but when Buu absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo, he never told Gohan to go Super Saiyan or raise his power like he did in the english version. Follow 793. This is further supported by the fact that when he was getting beaten by Buu (Gotenks Absorbed) he did not transform. We are not even sure if he could transform into a Super Saiyan because we didn't see him to do so. thumb|300px|right|see super saiyan is wat he does from the start, Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan, http://www.saiyanisland.com/2013/03/akira-toriyama-interview/, https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Why_can%27t_Ultimate_Gohan_go_ssj%3F?oldid=1371972. Wiki Points. (Anyone who thinks Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu is a fucking idiot.) How to estimate the integral involved the distance function, Is it normal that the "ä" is pronounced this way in this word? Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. I would ignore GT because it is inconsistent with the series. Ultimate Gohan’s Super Power! The Elder Kai said the training was complete. Watch the anime, read the magna, then speak. Thus it was no surprise when GT ignored the power up entirely. The actual evidence is him losing the trait associated with him going Ultimate. Finally I submit to you that when dende heals gohan, he's just too dumb to try it. Are there any major difference between Season 1 and 2 of Dragon Ball Super and the Dragonball Z movies they are named from? All that Old Kai did was release the sleeping power inside Gohan and give him access to it while he is in base form. He was told to stop and he asked the Old Kai if he can still transform into a Super Saiyan, and the Old Kai said yes but there's no need for him to do so because he had the power necessary to destroy Buu anyways. The best GIFs are on GIPHY. Casual. But, Goku wasn't there when Gohan was fighting with Super Buu, may be that's why Gohan didn't go SSJ. Also it will suck bad if he actually  reached his limits i mean, he is a saiyan....let's not forget that when he receives an almost fatal or fatal blow he becomes even more stronger so that there completely justifies the theory that he can surpass his current limit and one way of doing that is by going super. To subscribe to this RSS feed, copy and paste this URL into your RSS reader. Goku stated that he was "stronger then he ever was as a Super Saiyan". super saiyan. So Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is the power he had  at the time (SSJ2) completely unlocked in his base form. this is an era where toei gave no fucks about power creep. All of his hidden potential is unlocked. super buu. Ultimate Gohan can't go super saiyan and there would be no point. Expression to replace characters in Attribute table. What's with the Trump veto due to insufficient individual covid relief? Old Kai unlocked all his powers, so in his base form, he can now access SSJ2 tier strength and any other latent strength he had not unlocked yet. picha. Look at the way I see it. Go to the Battle of Gods page and see this part: Written by Make sense now?? With the ultimate form being an easy transformation to unlock all of his powers without going SSJ. dedicated to all Teen Gohan fãs. Add interesting content and ... mystic gohan. What's so different with Mystic Gohan? So, this would be him actually doing something with the already-powerful Ultimate/Mystic form that ended up getting trampled on the grand because Gohan becomes the most powerful in the universe and doesn't do shiiiiit. super saiyan. DBZ does not end with Buu. He told Goku that he did not need to go Super Saiyan while using the earrings because the earrings had all the power they needed because Gohan was slacking and couldn't beat Majin Buu (Super Buu with Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed). SSJ3 Goku And SSJ2 Vegeta VS Mystic (Ultimate) Gohan. And why didn't he go ssj when he was being beaten around by super buu(with gotenks and piccolo absorbed)? So Gohan has 2 options like kid goku did. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! SSJTyrone (talk) 03:59, January 15, 2015 (UTC). Anime & Manga Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for anime and manga fans. Next time... on Dragon Ball Z...(I miss the sound of that. However, unlike his father, Gohan dislikes fighting and harming others, and his true power only shows through during moments of intense rage. OK in ep 262 when gohan powers up goku remarks that, 'he didn't even transform' and elder kai says it's not like has to, ssj is depraved.. That's the first context clue. To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers. Or maybe they decide that if Gohan transforms into SSJ/SSJ2 would be better for a visual stand-point? Because it's impossible for him to surpass his limits. 100 (ultimate) + SSJ (x2)= 200, or doubled energy while in ultimate form, then another x2 for SSJ2 Ultimate to equal x4 ultimate. super saiyan. Gohan's aura also retains its normal hue; instead of the traditional gold one would expect from a Super Saiyan, the Ultimate Gohan state grants Gohan a pure white — occasionally almost transparent — aura. He couldn't go ssj in his Ultimate form because old kai gained all power of his body which wouldn't let him go ssj in this form. Gohan briefly goes Ultimate=Has the closed eyes Fatdude (talk) 22:06, September 8, 2012 (UTC), Maybe due to Gohan skipping his training and focusing more on his studies as a Scholar and his family (probally dued to peaceful times no doubt) over the ten year gap seen after the defeat of Kid Buu, his Hidden Potential vanishes which is why it's not seen in Dragon Ball GT at all.Nikon23 05:53, December 4, 2012 (UTC), and also Super Saiyan 2 was seen briefly by Goku (GT) as he bypass to Super Saiyan 3,  and Gohan and Vegeta clearly uses the Transformation during the Battle against Super Android #17 and Omega Shenron. You shouldn't  even bring G.T. If gohan was able to go SSJ in his ultimate form, do you realize how strong he would be? Super Gohan is merely Gohan at his max.This means that his base power has increased substantially even greater than ssj3.Super saiyan transformations increase your base power to about 500percent more.Therefore If Super Gohan transforms then he'll get a massive boost of power.The reason he hasnt done that already may be that its harder to awaken super saiyan with his base level so strong.I think he can but hasn't learnt to yet. Mystic Gohan is the official name. Can you imagine how powerful gohan would be if he went ssj2? So he could go SS cuz he's a saiyan but his ultimate form required a different transformation. Duh. That Super-Whatever-Thing is depraved." Ultimate wasn't a transformation but a power up that exceeded SS and SS2 but he had to do it in a base form. This "Mystic Power" is also known as Gohan's hidden power. Gohan obviously couldn't have since he was being clobbered further along when fighting buu and there's no need to worry about Earth from transforming since the planet at this point has NO PEOPLE on it to be harmed anymore so stop saying he can in DBZ since it's annoying. fotografia. gohan. If he could, he would have and just beat up Buutenks and not taken a beaten. Mystic Gohan now can use his SSJ strength without transforming, so energy efficiency is perfected here. photo. The big black circle is Gohan's full power. 1 Description 2 Introduction 3 Gohan 4 Boruto 5 Pre Battle 6 Battle The sons of Animes two biggest legends clash in a battle of Epicproportions! What Elder Kai did was remove the blue circles. I know none of us would compare DBZ to GT but Goku was kinda the same with SS4; Base -> SS - > SS3 and Base - > SS4. Thats why I rewatched all of DBZ and Kai in Japanese for all my answers lol, ...before he went to fuse with Gohan (Vegeta). I know, it would be ridiculous if we really compare the whole Saiyan's Power theory to what the series showed us (that Saiyans can increase their power by achieving a much more powerfull states) but this the truth plus it was never said that Gohan was in a particular form or transformation named Ultimte form, it was just his Secret hidden power which was released in that form and nothing. so why in the hevenly fathers name would he need to turn ssj or ssj2? Unlike before he barely transforms into a SSJ (only his eyes change color) and instead the rest is characteristic of the energy release that is later seen with the full Ultimate state transformation. Because that form Goku requires a lot of energy to sustain that form. MarkoSeke™ (talk) (contribs) 13:10, July 13, 2011 (UTC), ultimate gohan is not a form its gohans power unlocked so that makes it his base form, thumb|300px|right|see super saiyan is wat he does from the startHe didnt go super saiyan because thats wat triggers the full powerup hes not transformed but he is "super saiyan"Tjakari 20:54, July 13, 2011 (UTC). And he also said here: "What I did was create the story" Go research more. He couldn't realise in that moment that he could transform into a SSJ or other forms because he was so busy fighting Super Buu. As for transforming into a Super Saiyan, no he can't. Goku and Vegeta didn't need what Old Kai gave Gohan because their training and experience gives them control of their full base already. They also could have done better on Dragon Ball GT.). It's kinda like how ( I know how we all hate dbgt lol but hear me out) kid goku usually goes from base form straight to SS4. Thanks to BattleBoy and SSKT for Avatar and Banner. He gets week from not practicing dramaticly during the GT saga and in turns when he faught in the world turny he got his power absorbed. So let me tell you Gohan’s mystic form is stronger and better than Goku’s Super Saiyan 3. Also, the power he never unlocked is also, obviously, not present. Although this may not be a 100% accurate way to distinguish his physical appearance, but we will have to wait till episode 90 comes out and see if Gohan will have that "hair bang" only when he's using the power Old Kaiōshin unlocked or not. old kai do his weird dance 5 hours long and gohans unweaken powers aweaken so ultimate gohan already surpass a ssj. DragonBallZ is not the kind of series where character's hold back so unreasonably, and whenever they do hold back it's blatantly explained. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Big Bang Mission!!! So why didn't Gohan simply transform into a SSJ as Mystic Gohan during his fight with Super Buu? SSJ3 Goku would win, Goku said if he was a full powered SSJ3 he would have easily beaten Kid Buu (strongest Buu form) and Gohan couldn't beat Super Buu in his "Mystic Gohan" form, which by the way isn't even called that, it's Ultimate Gohan. The only physical difference I've ever seen between Gohan in base form, and Gohan in mystic form, it's a radiance he displays for a second in the Battle of Gods movie when turning into mystic form. It's not in the manga. He can simply raise his power level versus having to transform first before raising power level. He is at his max so turning ssj is a waist of time. But it is not stated that he can't in the Magna. Therefore DBZ BOG Gohan was stronger than "Ultimate" Gohan who fought Super Buu. If gt gohan is stronger than mystic from z, he would be stronger than vegeta in GT. YES! Even if there is a slight change in his physical appearance it is unfortunately not noted down by anyone. He CAN transform into SSJ, SSJ2. gohan. Super Saiyan 3 was intended to be the last transformation, and this would have been a way to maximize that power. The GT haters never understand this.Sandubadear (talk) 19:53, March 8, 2013 (UTC). (Sức mạnh của Mystic Gohan là gì-Ultimate Gohan-old kai khai phá sức mạnh tiềm ẩn gohan,Potential Unleashed gohan,Super Gohan) Cuối cùng, để chuẩn bị cho giải đấu 12 vÅ© trụ và trước mắt là giải đấu biểu diễn với vÅ© trụ 9, Gohan đã nhờ Piccolo huấn luyện lại để khôi phục sức mạnh nhÆ° xÆ°a. dedicated to all Gohan những người hâm mộ thanks i would enjoy if you commented and tell me what you think :). Why would Toriyama introduce Ssj3 only to humiliate it with Mystic? BUT SSJ, SSJ2 and SSJ3 (which I believe he could transform quite easily after he unlock his hidden power) consumes more ki than the base form, specially the SSJ3 form, so Gohan will not get stronger, but he will loses more ki after time than if he is on his base form (his ultimate state), so that's why he did not transform into any SSJ forms. Most people that have seen Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, and Dragon Ball Kai would know that it was anger that used to releash his power. Mystic Gohan should win: even tho Janemba is stronger than SS3 Goku, Hoku can syill hould his own against Janemba; M. Gohan is considerable stronger than Super Buu, and Goku said hat he nor Vegeta had possibilities against S. Buu. photo of *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* for fans of Teen Gohan. He's Whiz and I'm Boomstick! So in GT when Gohan turns super saiyan and he goes into the form of super saiyan it goes against what actually happened in DBZ. Forum Posts. Absolutely unbelievable… Your appearance has hardly changed… And you ain’t even a Super Saiyan… Yet you’ve been taken to su-such an extreme…”, Elder Kaiōshin: “Hmph, transforming isn’t good. And the "Mystic/Ultimate Gohan" is not a trnasformation, it is a power-up to Gohan's base form. Ultimate>>>>Super Saiyan The fact is had Gohan gone Ssj3 WHILE Mystic he would have had a massive powerup. No ultimate Gohan is when gohan reaches his fathers goal back when they were training for cell when he can be comfortable in ssj2 thats all Frankly, Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is just as strong as SSJ3. It wasn't a transformation it just made gohan stronger. I am stuck in transit in Malaysia from Australia. The Former Kai DID NOT SAY ANYTHING about him going Super Saiyan. Maybe he figures out how to re-unlock his saiyan transformations some time in those ten years between Z and GT. We can't take GT into account anymore as with the new Super Saiyan God form; GT is now offically a what if story arc. Manga comes before the anime and the manga never showed him in ssj so he couldn't have transformed. Featured: Football (Soccer) TV AC:NH Pokémon Trading Music Movies Pokémon Sword & Shield Final Fantasy VIII MH Stories Legend of Dragoon PC Games and … Based on anime knowledge ONLY, who do you think would win in a fight between Future Gohan (the one from Future Trunks's timeline) or Ultimate Gohan* (the present day Gohan after his powers are awakened by Elder Kai.) |Noun{| class="ts" He's always had problems using all his base power. |} Whiz: Even though they seem Larger than life, even legends do regular things. and in gt he was able to go ssj becuase he had lost some of his power over time due to being a "normal person" so he could tap into more power through transforming. super buu. And will last longer in the battle, so Goku will lose his energy while still in ssj3 form and then he's even more screwed. So if he went super saiyan while ultimate it would be: Start- 1 It is ASSUMED that he can not go SSJ any  more because of his attempt to power up. 0. If he knew Hirudegarn, Super Buu(Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed), Bills who had power levels above him, and the earth was in danger, a normal mind would easily comprehend that to beat such characters with high power levels, you would have to have power levels higher than theirs, right? | style="height: 10px;"| And if he could then the forms would have been a "power down" for him. In ultimate your power level is the full extent of your power. So Ultimate/Mystic Gohan is the power he had at the time (SSJ2) completely unlocked in his base form. Point is that when going Super Saiyan, instead his power just goes past everything and he remains in base form, he has no Super Saiyan forms. A bird becomes an eagle." Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu | Full Fight | HD. Just think of it like Piccolo; yeah he's a Super Namek but that doesn't mean he's at Super Namek Full Power all the time. Gohan's new power was so immense to the point where he didn't need to transform into Super Saiyan 1 or 2. *Mystic Gohan vs Super Buu* added by KEISUKE_URAHARA. PS: Don't refer to the DBZ movies to support your arguments, it's pathetic because there is zero logic in those things. Considering they took the effort to do so where in any other movie or series that wasn't cannon they didn't care, that's just one more point to add to the "he can't do it" side. The dialog about Gohan after Old Kai unlocks his power heavily implies he can go Super Saiyan as no on ever says that Gohan can't get any stronger. He had not transformed because it was unnessesary. mystic gohan. Furthermore, in the manga, the only cannon source of Dragonball Z statements, that whole "I wonder if I can become Super Saiyan" comment does not actually happen. Go ask Toriyama and stop babbling about!He's the only one that can answer this! This Teen Gohan fotografia contains anime, banda desenhada, manga, desenhos animados, mangá, and quadrinhos. 1 Match Dialogues 1.1 Sparking 1.2 Team Dialogues 1.3 Match Reset 1.4 Shenron 2 Miscellaneous Dialogues 2.1 Character Selection 2.2 Intro 2.3 Victory 2.4 Defeat 2.5 Results Screen 3 Navigation An asterisk (*) means there's two different lines associated with that character. Old Kai can do the same thing, but on a much larger scale of course. Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu | Full Fight | HD. He just unlocked ALL of Gohan's BASE power. dedicated to all Teen Gohan fans END OF DISCUSSION! And this is what I remember the elder kai or the kaioshin from 15 generation back saying that Gohan can turn into a super saiyan but it wouldn't change his power level. Goku had Base Form -> SS1,2,3 or Base Form -> SS4, PS. I dont know why he did transform into SSJ on DBGT. GT is not canon. 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